Are there 2 types of panentheism? One where the world is contained in God, and the other where God is in everything in the world? If so, idk if classic panentheism holds both the transcendental and imminent aspects simultaneously, but maybe I've understood it wrong.
Well, to say the “universe” exists within God requires further explanation. According to the Christian worldview, God cannot coexist with sin. Sin is not “substance” but the derivation of that which is good, like rot or decay. If we understand God to he “ultimate reality” instead of “extensive reality”, we then see God as both a person AND the actual embodiment of Morality itself.
I think that God DOES have a person hood in a sense. In the Bible it says that “For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God (Exodus 34:14).
Pantheism makes more sense though. Love the fact that Panantheism still makes sense somehow as it's only problem is, it's convince one into believing God is a person without connecting any dots.
Which position does each Eastern Orthodox Church and Catholic Church hold? From what I feel seems like you (an Eastern Orthodox) tends to believe in panentheism, am I right?
So essentially the same thing. Only one side of the argument can't get over the fact that humans aren't as oh so special as we were brought up to believe.
Pantheism does not claim that God is impersonal, neither does Panentheism claim God is a personal being; Furthermore, Panenthiesm not only claims that All is in God, but also claims that God is in All
When I took shrooms and after a year of introspection and researching science, I formulated my belief that is similar to pantheism without knowin what it was before… this is triply
I like the idea of Panentheism where the universe exists within God but I don’t believe that God has personhood. I believe that the universe exists within God but God is still this transcendent force or energy that exists
27 Comments
@jamersbazuka8055
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMAre there 2 types of panentheism? One where the world is contained in God, and the other where God is in everything in the world? If so, idk if classic panentheism holds both the transcendental and imminent aspects simultaneously, but maybe I've understood it wrong.
@traderlope1164
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMAnd they both sound stupid asf
@ignas358
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWell, to say the “universe” exists within God requires further explanation. According to the Christian worldview, God cannot coexist with sin. Sin is not “substance” but the derivation of that which is good, like rot or decay. If we understand God to he “ultimate reality” instead of “extensive reality”, we then see God as both a person AND the actual embodiment of Morality itself.
@johndevlin403
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMI think that God DOES have a person hood in a sense. In the Bible it says that “For you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God (Exodus 34:14).
@kevinclass2010
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMSt Augustine has a beautiful explanation for Panentheism: can a jar hold the ocean?
@LoafCircle-りょう
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWas there a butt on 0:03
@rezamohamadakhavan_abdolla8627
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMThank you for the definition
@codygillard
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWeak Panentheism ftw
@sameerhussain2579
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMPantheism makes more sense though. Love the fact that Panantheism still makes sense somehow as it's only problem is, it's convince one into believing God is a person without connecting any dots.
@K.Bye.0_0
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMAlhamdulillah for Islam. ❤
I'm saved from all this BS.
@AetosGuardi
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWhich position does each Eastern Orthodox Church and Catholic Church hold?
From what I feel seems like you (an Eastern Orthodox) tends to believe in panentheism, am I right?
@Aetherakabane
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMSo basically 7th civilization
@al_temuri
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMThere's no existence except God.
This can be understood in 3 types.
1) If Only God exists then everything is God
This idea is Pantheism or you can expand it a bit in Panentheism too.
Other two are the two interpretations of Islamic Concept of Absolute Onenness of God (Tawhid) or Absolute Monotheism in most purest forms.
2) Only God truly exists, and this universe is just a mere illusion. A reflection of Him that wants to be known.
This Oneness/Unity of Being (Wahdatush Shahood)
3) Only God truly exists, but while everything comes from God, not everything is God itself but rather reflects the Oneness of God's essence
This is Oneness/Unity of Being (Wahdatul Wajood)
@younggod3906
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMPantheism
@thelatterdayarbiter
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMSo basically Marvel’s Electro vs HP Lovecraft’s Sleeping Idiot?
@naifedicer1668
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMYou have failed to distinguish panentheism from classical Christian theism
@Toshiro4619
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMSo essentially the same thing. Only one side of the argument can't get over the fact that humans aren't as oh so special as we were brought up to believe.
@oo1o11o
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMPantheism does not claim that God is impersonal, neither does Panentheism claim God is a personal being; Furthermore, Panenthiesm not only claims that All is in God, but also claims that God is in All
@ZxZNebula
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWhen I took shrooms and after a year of introspection and researching science, I formulated my belief that is similar to pantheism without knowin what it was before… this is triply
@chief_tobias_
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWait, are you claiming that Orthodoxy is panentheistic?
@glxrybxy8484
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMThis make sense to me
@slimshady4life689
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMI like the idea of Panentheism where the universe exists within God but I don’t believe that God has personhood. I believe that the universe exists within God but God is still this transcendent force or energy that exists
@khanthor7974
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMAny good example of Panentheism?
@timbogan7244
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMPanentheism true
@georgi7590
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMwow thats a good one
@anaperez-dj1kg
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMSo spinoza was indeed a Pantheist?
@watsonblack7481
02/19/2025 - 10:53 AMWhy not just be a theist